Friday, March 30, 2012

Bally's/Caesar's at Thanksgiving

Have Nov. 22-25 trip planned (Thanksgiving Eve through that Saturday). Am staying at Bally%26#39;s. Any idea how busy the casinos are at that time? Also would welcome any suggestions on a decent place for Thanksgiving dinner (no buffets, just traditional turkey etc.?) Any other advice?



Bally's/Caesar's at Thanksgiving


Thurs Fri and SAa will be about as busy as a typical Fall Saturday . For Restaurant advice see Christmas Dinner post about 10 down . I suggest a reservation ! !



Bally's/Caesar's at Thanksgiving


Call Prime Place at Ballys as they might have a Thanksgiving dinner. I know you said no buffets but ballys Virginia city Buffet is very good ( not a sloppy buffet and a nice atmosphere ) and they are probably going to have a nice turkey section with all the fixin%26#39;s etc..





CHEERS !!!!!

Will AC start targeting Asians ?

I found some interesting facts about the CT Casinos while Googling .



Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun send over 100 buses per week into the Asian markets in NYC ( Chainatown) and Boston . They get a R/T for $10 and it includes up to a $40 gambling credit and a $12 food credit . This is much better than the Atlantic City Deals which are usually $18 to $22 back on a $26 bus ticket .



One in 5 employees at FW ,and 1 in 7 at MS , is Asian . The number for FW will go up to near 1 in 4 when the new MGM casino section is opened . 20% of MS customers are Asian . Over 33% of FW%26#39;s . When they open the new MGM casino the FW #%26#39;s will increase to over 40% , more than a dozen times the Asian population of CT .



FW agressively seeks out the Hong Kong Market while MS does not . FW sponsors 3 Asian Parades ; in NYC, Boston and Lowell .



Both advertise in Chinese magazines and newspapers and hand out glossy flyers in Asian neighborhoods . Most of the bused in players from the Asian markets are immigrants and have poor ( if any) English skills . They find gambling to be one of the few entertainment options for them in the US .



Now that MGM is affiliated with FW ( and will have access to their database ) will they try to more agressively try to bring the Asian market to Atlantic City where they control 40% of the casino market ? WIll they make one of the 4 casinos in AC an Asian Destination . I was told by a worker in Bally%26#39;s Wild West ( I don%26#39;t want to say who , but he hears a lot .) that the Wild West was going to be torn down after the holidays to make room for a Casino hotel that was ';Going to be just for the Asian%26#39;s . Asian entertainment , Asian restaurants , you know , the whole bit .'; Anyone hear anything else about this ? Do you think that AC will improve it%26#39;s bus comps to lure the Asian market from NYC ( and Philly ? ) . Will they only give the upgrade to buses leaving from Chinatown ?



There are other markets which no one seems to cater to : e.g. Gay , Over 50 , Singles over 30 , All other ethnicities , etc . They say that one reason is that Asians coming into this country are already heavily indoctrinated to a gambling enviroment . Their home countries have extensive gambling as entertainment activities with everything from cockfighting to Pachinko .



How would non-Asians feel about regularly visiting an Atlantic City casino that had a 40% , or maybe even 70% , Asian base ?



At what percentage would it become uncomfortable ( too Asian centered ) 35% ? , 50% ? I%26#39;m really curious . This has nothing to do with prejudice . Just how much a casino can cater to a particular group , be it Asian , gay, senior citizens , etc . before it turns off the general population . I assume different groups would have different thresholds . I have heard many people complain about the unofficial ';gay day'; at Disneyland . I%26#39;m suprised there ins%26#39;t a ';gay day '; in AC .



Will AC start targeting Asians ?


MGM will have an affiliation with Foxwoods, but it is Harrahs that controls 40% of the AC casinos. I don%26#39;t believe MGM has any connection with any AC casinos (but I could be wrong).





I personally don%26#39;t care if the casinos are 99% Asian. I go there to gamble, not make small talk.



Will AC start targeting Asians ?


Ambrva , my mistake MGM is associated with Borgota , not Harrah%26#39;s Properties .( At least I%26#39;m pretty sure they still are .) But the premise remains the same . Will Borgota , Harrah%26#39;s or someone else target Asians ?



Truth is , I do go to AC for ';small talk '; - Drinking , dancing , shows,shops, etc . more than for the gambling . I find I prefer spending money on the ponies or sports when I bet heavy . This because a bit of knowledge can turn the odds in your favor . And you can get a longer ';show'; for your money . Also I%26#39;m also only 1 1/2 hours away from AC . So the slots are not an unusual activity for me . I like bartenders I can shoot the breeze with and bar patrons I have something in common with .



Also interesting , I found that the Asian market for gambling is much more male oriented across all age ranges .



And it seems that the Asians share MY view -lol . They won%26#39;t come just to gamble . They want ASIAN food , entertainment, dealers , clubs , etc .




Oh Taj already has. Opened an Asian Noodle Bar and built a new minibaccarat and paigow pit!! They also have a lot of entertainment with Asian performers.




Showboat has an Asian gaming area, too, but the minimums are high. I mean, I like playing Pai Gow Poker and realize you push a lot but I still don%26#39;t want to play for a min of $25 a hand!





Doesn%26#39;t Caesars now have hosts specifically for Asians? I seem to recall ACMama being assigned one sorta %26#39;by accident%26#39;. Apologies if I%26#39;m remembering wrong.





That said, the presence of a Chinese food place doesn%26#39;t constitute catering in my book. Lots of people like Chinese food and so it%26#39;s in every casino%26#39;s best interests to have at least one.





Personally I wish more had Indian restaurants! Anyone know anything about the one in the Taj?




Hope So, I Love Asian Women i went out with a Chinese girl for quite a while and was engaged to a Filipino girl. Asian girls are awesome. AC needs more LOL





CHEERS !!!!!!!!




Its not a run of the mill ';chinese'; restaurant. Its really Asian and does not serve chinese food as we kow it--certainly not chowmein. Definitely more real than americanized. I also always wonder about the Indian restaurant there. I love Indian food but I wouldnt want to be the first person to try it. Maybe we should start a new topic to see if anyone has eaten there?




How does the Taj%26#39;s new noodle bar compare menu-wise to N.O.W. (Noodles of the World) at the Borg?




I cant help with that as Ive never been to the Borg!




I agree that AC has been targeting Asians . The Hilton gets 20% of it%26#39;s table revenue form Asians , and 3% of the slot revenue . ( Probably the highest in AC , but about half that of Foxwoods) 1 in 5 of Hilton%26#39;s employees are Asian . They say the Asian Market does not spend much outside the gambling . Mainly in the Noodle Bars . Entertainment and lounges are still geared towards ';American'; tastes . Football on the big screens , English speaking bands , and headliners . And mostly American and European restaurants . They don%26#39;t care much for things outside the casino mainly due to cultural differences and language barriers .



The Casbah Dance Club ( Taj ) in an effort to boost sagging attendance has reached out to the Asian Market . But they are now noticing that it is mostly Asian males that are coming , which creates other problems . Hilton runs buses specifically for the Chinatown Market in NYC .I wonder how these comps and prices compare to Acadamy or Greyhound ?



The trend seems to be to make Asian Gaming Pits and place them away from the main casino . The Hilton has placed it on the second floor .




allure,like I said before,I agree with you 100% on this Asian thing.It will be like Vegas shortly,you%26#39;ll have a hard time finding an American T.V. channel.

Finally!! Comps from Harrahs, et al!!!!!

I couldn%26#39;t believe my eyes when I got the mail! Finally, after months and months of nothing -- there it was -- free room comps at Harrahs, Showboat, Caesars, and/or Ballys! The offer is for 2 nights at any location during the first half of November, then 2 nights for the last half. Sure, it%26#39;s got the regular blocked out dates, but still -- FOUR nights free! I though these comps were a thing of the past.

It%26#39;s just too bad they%26#39;ve already disappointed me to such an extent that I have plans to go to AC and actually pay for a hotel room in a casino not affiliated with this bunch. Although I probably will not let these freebies go to waste, it%26#39;s not going to entice me to stay in their casino.

Finally!! Comps from Harrahs, et al!!!!!

These offers showed up on the Total Rewards website under ';My Offers'; last week. You should keep checking that as well.

Finally!! Comps from Harrahs, et al!!!!!

Lotsa free offers also from Harrahs.They can Shove them. We will use the ones from Hilton,Resorts,Borgata and the Trumps who have been appreciative of our Money,while Harrahs Snubbed us since the takeover.


Just to show you how Harrah%26#39;s comps have changed since the buyout...

My spouse is a gold card member. He gets ZERO - no room offers at all, no buffets, an occasional $5 cash good on certain days only.

I am 7 Stars. I no longer get HOB tickets, Gospel Brunch tickets, and my free buffets are good only on certain days. I have also noticed that the cashback you earn from playing has dropped - and since you really could never figure out how they calculated this in the first place it%26#39;s impossible to tell by what percentage, etc, it has been reduced.

Now that the summer is over Harrah%26#39;s - like everyone else - will be a bit more generous with their free rooms, but how many loyal customers did they lose by now!

ACMama


Wow AcMama,

If that%26#39;s the way they treat 7Stars folks, no wonder so many of our Diamond perks have dried up! Forget the poor Gold card holders!! Hell, they don%26#39;t even get to park for free anymore!!!

Let me ask you a question. On a Las Vegas board there was a recent discussion about possible linking of spouses%26#39; Harrahs Players Accounts. It was agreed that Harrahs does not do this but one lady said that although her husband was a Diamond member and she was a gold, she had a Diamond card with her name on it and her account number not her husband%26#39;s. I answered back that I had never heard of this even though we%26#39;d been back and forth to Vegas properties for years and we originally made Platinum at the Rio in Vegas. A man answered that yes indeed, he had one of those cards, He was gold, his wife was Diamond and he had a card and that it worked at the Diamond Clubs and they were each able to bring in a guest for a total of 4 people!

They all thought it was something that might have been particular to the Nevada and Calf Harrahs. Anyone heard of this??? ';Our'; Diamond card is in my wife%26#39;s name and I am but a kept man, so if this is true it would be very interesting. While much of the annual tier score in recent years has come from Vegas, our cards do originate at the AC Harrahs so perhaps this is a deciding factor.


Frank, this linking of cards is news to me. My husband plays on my extra Diamond card so we can run up the points faster, but no one ever offered to link his card with mine. I%26#39;m thinking this might be limited to other Harrah%26#39;s markets such as Vegas. You don%26#39;t use your 7 stars card in the machine - it is strictly for ID purposes only, so they give you Diamond cards to use for playing purposes.

A few months ago I requested 2 free rooms instead of 1 since my niece was coming down to celebrate her 21st birthday. My host was completely unable to do this for me, even using my spouse%26#39;s ';card.'; I wound up having to go through HER boss and it came out OK - but it was obvious to me at the time that they don%26#39;t link cards.

ACMama


ACmama,

No, it%26#39;s not ';linking'; ...we were told a long time ago that they don%26#39;t do that. What they are talking about is just giving the spouse a Diamond Card with their name on it.

We%26#39;re exactly like you guys (well,without the 7 Stars designation) and we play on my wife%26#39;s Diamond Card, but like your husband, I am basically along for the ride.

What this sounds like to me is that the accounts are not ';linked'; but rather that the un-Diamond spouse has a card that shares the spouse%26#39;s Diamond privileges. Points for tier score and reward credits are not shared, just the Diamond privilege.


Well, to me, the mystery continues. I am a gold card member. My October reward gives me a free room basically Sun-thurs. So does my November room offer. I basically have to pay on Fri Sat nites. Those prices range from $139 to $179 depending on the weekend in October and $99 to $169 in November depending on the weekend. It%26#39;s valid at all Harrahs AC casinos.

But I would expect something like this? It%26#39;s off season for AC.

I am a nickel/penny slot player for the most part, but can play up to $1-2 a spin. I%26#39;m curious as to what the room prices are for the rest of you.


Frank, thanks for clearing that up. No one every offered to give my husband a Diamond card to use. On those rare occasions when he has a cash coupon to redeem, he cannot get into the ';Diamond'; line. I may ask my host about this - but it seems to me that they would have offered it if it was available.

Just another day in the mysterious world of casino comping :)

ACMama


You are so right ACmama,

Some days I think that it%26#39;s a game with the folks at Harrahs. If you know about the ins and outs of the system you get more..if not, oh well! Kind of like how they hide the Diamond Lounges in some of the properties!

If you%26#39;d like to read the thread on the Vegas board here%26#39;s a link:

www.lasvegastalk.com/modules.php…


I agree with Moneywho, Bye Bye Harrah%26#39;s and hello Trop and others to come. There are just way too many places and better places to spend my money than at a casino that doesn%26#39;r care about it%26#39;s customers !!!!!!

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    PLEASE TELL ME what restaurants are at the Pier at Caesars!!

    My computer at work won%26#39;t let me log on to the web-site since I don%26#39;t have Flash version 8--Can anyone give me a list of restaurants (sit-down only--not food court) Thanks!!!!



    PLEASE TELL ME what restaurants are at the Pier at Caesars!!


    As of yet there are no restaurants open.





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    PLEASE TELL ME what restaurants are at the Pier at Caesars!!


    oh :) thanks!!




    does anyone know when these will be open? My husband and I were planning on going to the ';Game on'; restaurant next sunday to catch some football games, but I guess not now!




    Is there going to be a Game On Sport Cafe there??? I had heard a rumor here in Boston that they might be putting one at the new shopping mall in AC. Game On is owned by the Boston Red Sox through a subsidiary company called the Lyons Group or something like that I believe. The original Game On is at Fenway Park and it is awesome. It has 60+ Plasma Hi-Def TV%26#39;s and the food is pretty good too. They just opened one at Logan Int%26#39;l Airport recently as well.




    If you go to Ceasars website and click on the pier info, it list Game On as one of the restaurants. My husband thought it would be pretty cool.




    I was just there a few days ago. The only food facility open at the Pier is a Starbucks. The Pier has 3 levels, it appears that the 3rd level is reserved for the restuarants. As of last Thursday, the entire 3rd floor is still under construction and closed to public traffic. I did see a Philips seafood restaurant taking shape. My unprofessional guesstimate is that the food facilities should be open within 2-3 months.




    I just heard from the management at Game On (via email), that the Game On at the Pier is officially opened today!




    Stephen Starr%26#39;s Buddakan and the Continental are open, they both opened this week. The Lyons Group has Game On which is open, The Trinity Pub which is open and Sonsie which is slated to open Friday, October 6th. Phillips Seafood and Souzai and Sake are both not opened yet, they should be following along shortly. Rumjungle is still a little bit in the future.




    Here%26#39;s a link from a page of this week%26#39;s Ocean City Gazette:





    www.oceancitygazette.com/pages_b/page2_30.htm





    On the bottom right side of the page there is an article that talks about all the new restaurants at the Pier.




    We were just there earlier this week and we tried to eat at Game On and they were not serving food yet. Only the bar was open. Contiental and one other restaurant were open but they seemed a little more fancier then we wanted that night. Phillips was still under construction.

    Vacation in Cape May

    Hi,





    Well, we%26#39;re back from vacation already. Isn%26#39;t that always the fastest moving week of the year? Thanks for all the information we got from the forum board. We visited a lot of the places you suggested although some of the tour sites were closed for the season. We even snuck into the Washington Mall for a brief period -- just long enough to get an ice cream cone from Ben and Jerry%26#39;s and visit a pet shop. It wasn%26#39;t very crowded the day we were there and a lot of people fussed over the well-behaved dogs. The dogs were welcome everywhere we went -- the beach, the bay, the boardwalk, Higbees and Sunset Beach, the Lighthouse, the bird sanctuaries, etc., etc.





    Speaking of the dogs, Brodie and Anika had a ball. We rented a house and they had their very own ';Florida'; sun room, where they slept and ate and rested and played and on and on... As it turned out the house was only three places from the Delaware Bay. Other than the day we arrived and the day before we left the weather was beautiful and in the 70%26#39;s.





    They loved the ocean and the bay, Brodie (cairn terrier) more so than Anika (keeshond). Brodie loved to chase the waves and bite and lick at them when they came in. He didn%26#39;t mind at all getting wet. It didn%26#39;t take him long to learn to run down to the water%26#39;s edge and wait for the waves to roll in each time we went to the beach -- ocean or bay. He also loved to dig in the sand. Anika would go in and get her feet wet but she was too prissy to get wet all over. She spent most of her time digging in the sand and ';looking'; for seashells. (This surprised us since both of our former keeshonden loved water.)





    On one of our trips to the beach, Brodie decided to have his very own Sushi Bar. :):) I kid you not! Soft shelled crabs being a delecacy Brodie decided to dig one up. As soon as I saw it I told him to ';drop it.'; But he completely ignored me and said, no way, and I soon heard a crunching sound. Believe it or not he ate the whole thing. I thought he might get sick later on but he didn%26#39;t. We still laugh about it and it makes a great story to tell our friends.





    This was their first trip to the ocean and they really enjoyed themselves. They both loved all the attention they got from other tourists. They were great in the house and, thank God, they had no accidents at all. They%26#39;re always great in the car and ride in travel crates so this was no problem. Just that every couple of hours you heard a little whimper that indicated they needed a potty break.





    So ... we%26#39;re already planning a prime location for our next



    V-A-C-A-T-I-O-N with the furbutts. Where will we go? Any suggestions?





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    Brodie %26amp; Anika



    Vacation in Cape May


    Hi! I%26#39;m so happy that you had a great time. Thanks for sharing the great stories, especially the crab one (;0)!



    I can%26#39;t wait till Nov. to go back again and see all the Christmas decorations.



    Have an ice day!



    Vacation in Cape May


    Hi! What a great post! I%26#39;m so glad the whole family enjoyed. I wish Sparky shared their enthusiasm about the ocean. When are you planning to go away again? What are you wanting to do for your next trip?





    Again - so glad you enjoyed your time in Cape May. We%26#39;re looking forward to going back, too.